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	<title>Kommentare zu: Privacy issue: Google Docs seems to not delete but only hide documents when the trash is emptied</title>
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		<title>Von: Pandra</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-2330</link>
		<dc:creator>Pandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sucks.  We have been using Google docs for easy doc sharing.  Will have to move to a server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sucks.  We have been using Google docs for easy doc sharing.  Will have to move to a server.</p>
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		<title>Von: helix2301</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator>helix2301</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never store anything of importance on google docs. After reading this I am glad now that I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never store anything of importance on google docs. After reading this I am glad now that I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Von: Google Docs Info &#124; Helix Zone Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Docs Info &#124; Helix Zone Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Von: Benjamin Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

as of today, 25 February 2010, the link still works. Looks like Google is still not fixing this issue. 

Also, for DK above, pleae note that Google is designed that once you log out of one application in  Google, you log out of Google completely. so for example, if you log out of gmail, then you are automatically logged out of google docs, google news, etc. 

I am a small business owner, and I use Google docs to store a lot of my documents, like PDF files of research papers. i never store my important data with Google. That is a no no. I use Microsoft office, and my most important data is stored on a flash drive, or a USB hard drive, which I always have around me. It is encrypted, in case I lose the data, and some thief picks it up. And that is not even half-ass secure, but at least it will prevent against common threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>as of today, 25 February 2010, the link still works. Looks like Google is still not fixing this issue. </p>
<p>Also, for DK above, pleae note that Google is designed that once you log out of one application in  Google, you log out of Google completely. so for example, if you log out of gmail, then you are automatically logged out of google docs, google news, etc. </p>
<p>I am a small business owner, and I use Google docs to store a lot of my documents, like PDF files of research papers. i never store my important data with Google. That is a no no. I use Microsoft office, and my most important data is stored on a flash drive, or a USB hard drive, which I always have around me. It is encrypted, in case I lose the data, and some thief picks it up. And that is not even half-ass secure, but at least it will prevent against common threats.</p>
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		<title>Von: Budoboy</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-2205</link>
		<dc:creator>Budoboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed a problem.  We came across this the other day as we were trying the new &quot;Upload any File&quot; feature.  The file is uploaded to Docs, and if it is an image file, Google creates a preview of the image file and stores it an an unsecured URL.  Anyone and their mother can just enter that URL in any web browser and see a copy of the image that was uploaded.  If you delete the uploaded document from Google Docs, the image preview file still exists at the unsecured URL.  This is a major blow to Google for anyone who has considered Google Apps for Business.  I don&#039;t know how companies like Motorola and others can use Google Docs(which they say they do) without this being an issue for them.  I guess this behavior has been around for years and Google has come up with some lame excuse regarding images linked to other blogs and websites from Google Docs.  This had been less of an issue for Google since it only dealt with embedded images in Docs.  Now that you can upload any file type to store up on Google Docs(especially images), it is going to create huge security concerns for storing sensitive files at Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed a problem.  We came across this the other day as we were trying the new &#8220;Upload any File&#8221; feature.  The file is uploaded to Docs, and if it is an image file, Google creates a preview of the image file and stores it an an unsecured URL.  Anyone and their mother can just enter that URL in any web browser and see a copy of the image that was uploaded.  If you delete the uploaded document from Google Docs, the image preview file still exists at the unsecured URL.  This is a major blow to Google for anyone who has considered Google Apps for Business.  I don&#8217;t know how companies like Motorola and others can use Google Docs(which they say they do) without this being an issue for them.  I guess this behavior has been around for years and Google has come up with some lame excuse regarding images linked to other blogs and websites from Google Docs.  This had been less of an issue for Google since it only dealt with embedded images in Docs.  Now that you can upload any file type to store up on Google Docs(especially images), it is going to create huge security concerns for storing sensitive files at Google.</p>
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		<title>Von: DK</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the video, you never logged out of your gmail account.  only your google docs.  therefore you would still be able to access you google doc.

As far as the link still working... 

don&#039;t you people realize that the maker of the video could have just put that stuff back up to make you think it still existed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the video, you never logged out of your gmail account.  only your google docs.  therefore you would still be able to access you google doc.</p>
<p>As far as the link still working&#8230; </p>
<p>don&#8217;t you people realize that the maker of the video could have just put that stuff back up to make you think it still existed?</p>
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		<title>Von: concerned with google's tactics</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned with google's tactics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when on opens up an email attachment using google docs, it saves an editable copy on their server automatically.

google docs should not save an editable copy on their server without asking first.  and at a minimum, they should provide an option to delete it afterwards, which they do not.

it does not matter whether i am the only one with the link to that doc.  i do not want my personal documents on their server, period.

not knowing what other zealous tactics google is using, i will stay away from google docs app.  the app is not worth risking my privacy.

just look at their blunder from March 2009, where many people&#039;s documents were &#039;shared&#039; without their permission.  just stay away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when on opens up an email attachment using google docs, it saves an editable copy on their server automatically.</p>
<p>google docs should not save an editable copy on their server without asking first.  and at a minimum, they should provide an option to delete it afterwards, which they do not.</p>
<p>it does not matter whether i am the only one with the link to that doc.  i do not want my personal documents on their server, period.</p>
<p>not knowing what other zealous tactics google is using, i will stay away from google docs app.  the app is not worth risking my privacy.</p>
<p>just look at their blunder from March 2009, where many people&#8217;s documents were &#8217;shared&#8217; without their permission.  just stay away.</p>
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		<title>Von: rchard2scout</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-1995</link>
		<dc:creator>rchard2scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, still not fixed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, still not fixed</p>
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		<title>Von: canny</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-1993</link>
		<dc:creator>canny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that this article is a bit misleading. The document they specified sharing property and later deleted was Document1. Note that nothing is said about the image file stored on google Docs. It is fairly possible that the image is set to be shared and never deleted. In this sense, it is quite reasonable the image is accessible by everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that this article is a bit misleading. The document they specified sharing property and later deleted was Document1. Note that nothing is said about the image file stored on google Docs. It is fairly possible that the image is set to be shared and never deleted. In this sense, it is quite reasonable the image is accessible by everyone.</p>
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		<title>Von: heerschlag</title>
		<link>http://www.line-of-reasoning.com/issues/privacy-issue-google-docs-seems-to-not-delete-but-only-hide-documents-when-the-trash-is-emptied/comment-page-1/#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>heerschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crab!!!!!!!!!
Still nothing fixed; thanx for this article. I was hardly thinking about using Google-Docs.
Now I won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crab!!!!!!!!!<br />
Still nothing fixed; thanx for this article. I was hardly thinking about using Google-Docs.<br />
Now I won&#8217;t.</p>
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